JackGriffin wrote:Lame I finished up my last radiation treatment today. If you want help with this or you want me to do it for a while just let me know. I'm still healing but I can work a bit every day on something.
congrats!!!
glad to see that you made it through
TheLame wrote:
I was planning to make the mutator control these variables for each relic class individualy:
1. RespawnTime
2. bDropWhenDead
3. Maximum amount of relic allowed in map (if bDropWhenDead is True)
4. Destroy a relic if dropped into e.g. lava zone (if bDropWhenDead is True)
5. Mutate command to toss the current relic
Why a mutator? Well, when the map is released it's pretty much done, can ofcause be versioned up, but you know... most maps end up on file services and stays there even if outdated or flawed. With a mutator in the map you can "patch" the map without changing the map but instead make a mutator to "repair" the flawed part of the code, or to simply modify the behaviour of the relics as some most likely would want to?
These are just my thoughts ... if you start it you define it
sounds awesome! but it may not be necessasary.
being the klutz i am, I realized that you can actually modify the default properties of an actor by accidentally clicking the right mouse button over a power-up in that quake 3 pack, pulling the mouse down to "default properties...," and accidentally clicking on it to reveal, TA-DAAA! THE DEFAULT PROPERTIES!
they had the same problem as the relics and didn't want to show up in UED. so, after exploring these properties, I realized that I could use rubbish mesh under the 'display' tab to substitute in ued. i then tried it for the RelicInventory items (which do not respawn, and only drop on death) and it worked perfectly with the actual relic meshes. unfortunately however, 'Inventory>>Respawn Time' tab would not function at all, and there was no "drop on death" tab like there are for some weapons like the super shock rifle.
so what I did was I took a craptastic ctf map I made a few months ago and placed some of these relics about; a Regen and a Defense in each base(2 of each), 2 Strength in midway points where the teams would conflict and ONE speed relic in an out of the way part in the middle of the map, originally intended for a damage amplifier. naturally I did not use Redemption or Vengeance because they can only be used once and are kinda pointless for ctf. there were no death zones or lava pits or anything where if a player carrying a relic were to fall, the relic would stay there forever.
an interesting mechanic seemed to be introduced. since the relics still would not respawn, and would only be dropped on death, it seemed that in order to take a relic was to kill whomever was holding it.
so, that essentially means that by attacking the enemy base's defenders, you could steal their relics (defense, regen) away and run home with them, and the only way they could get them back was by attacking and taking them back. by having one Speed relic in the center of the map, both team's attackers would have to fight over which team had the advantage of a speed boost. the same could be said about Strength if there was only one in use.
and then I though "woah, what if they were used like this for TDM? in a 4 team game, where each team would be trying to take control of every relic in the map, everyone would have to gang up on the team with the most relics! so long as they don't fall into the eternal abyss of doom..." essentially this could become a cool gametype in itself, but there would have to be a way for the relics to respawn from a deathzone. essentially this could be done with the standard mutator, but it would be a bit more interesting to me to have to fight over them then having them spawn randomly at path nodes. "ooh, lookie! a randomly spawning relic! how Boring!" vs "EVERYONE GANG UP ON THAT GUY HE'S GOT THE STRENGTH RELIC FFUUUUUUU!"
in conclusion, perhaps the Inventory>>Pickup>>TournamentPickup>>RelicInventory>>stuffs just need to be subclassed? i mean the way i was using them, they were not bouncing around the map. they were picked up and held by a player until the player was fragged, and when they were fragged they would stay until someone would pick them up.
I might arrange a few maps with these relics to share what I'm talking about.
youdaman jack!