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Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:22 pm
by Patrick Bateman
I am testing new final release of 469d patch for XP.
I made clean install of UT99 GOTY in separate folder, then installed high resolution S3TC textures and made useful tweaks (like advised here on ut99.org).
I tried to game online on Evil's (-=NFR=- Evil's Freestyle Sniper Deathmatch) server with 436 - it worked.
And then i installed 469d patch for XP. And i try to connect to Evil's server. I was kicked 2 times by ACE almost immediately after connection.
Here is the screenshot of what it saying:
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There are other bugs that i find immediately after installing 469d, but i want to start here with most big one.

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:28 pm
by Deepu
I think ace need to be updated for arm, 64bit Linux and Win XP too, waiting for new ace.

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:48 pm
by Buggie
It not related to patch. Stop use DirectInput for mouse. Use RawInput.
It is well-known bug of ACE and will be fixed in next release of ACE.

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:09 pm
by Patrick Bateman
Buggie wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:48 pm It not related to patch. Stop use DirectInput for mouse. Use RawInput.
It is well-known bug of ACE and will be fixed in next release of ACE.
But i use direct input in 451 and 436 too. Why then ACE do not kick me when i use on every day basis 451+direct input?

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:28 pm
by Buggie
No idea.
Anyway ACE must not trigger for this file.

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:24 am
by Patrick Bateman
Buggie wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:28 pm Anyway ACE must not trigger for this file.
"must not trigger for this file"?
I'm sorry, but i don't understand meaning of what you wrote. Please, can you say this in another form?

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:20 am
by UT Sniper (SJA94)
ACE is not supposed to kick players for using direct input, it's a bug with ACE itself and not the 469 patch, the only thing different in 469 is that direct input uses the lastest version of it(DirectX8), microsoft themselves don't recommend using direct input for the last 12 years at least.

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As of 2011 Microsoft no longer recommends using DirectInput for keyboards or mice

Re: Patch 469d for win XP not compatible with ACE1.2e ?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:31 pm
by Delacroix
ACE should damn well be updated already. People shouldn't be kicked for using the latest patch, period, be it a renderer, an input setting or the resources updated by 469 such as UMenu. It needs to be updated and distributed across servers. Doing otherwise will basically shut out anyone who dared upgrade. This isn't what is supposed to happen.